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#1 oko

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 07:15 AM

The headline to make the SNP happy

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http://www.dailyreco...86908-23865167/


After Andrew’s Law is passed at Holyrood, anyone wanting to own an air rifle will have to apply for a licence through police.
Andy added: “There is no need for someone living in a housing scheme to have an air rifle in their home.
“They just cause pain and misery and there is no legitimate reason for someone to be walking around carrying a weapon of this sort.

Just need to wait for the licence details

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 09:14 AM

Politicians using this for publicity and advantage, media campaign to sell newspapers - nothing changes except I for one will be actively campaigning against any political party with similar views and posting anything less than squeaky clean on every media I can.
We are a minority community and an easy target.

We'll wait and see what the license brings but I really woory about the fairness of police in different areas as I live in one region and shoot in another.

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 10:24 AM

I agree, just political posturing on a popular witch hunt. What next from the snp nutcases

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 02:40 PM

Actually I see some positives in this. Although the headline is extremely misleading, it actually confirms 'licencing' rather than an outright ban. The status quo was never going to continue so no point getting upset. As SARPA chairman Graham Ellis keeps saying, it's now damage limitation to get the best possible 'licence' scheme in place, so best get behind it and move on. You can't fart against thunder.
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 06:50 PM

yup, the second i seen it i was like here goes the propoganda wheel spinning again. Saying they are banned is like saying fishing is banned and owning a shotgun is banned. both incorrect as a licencing scheme is not a ban.....

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 06:54 PM

It's a shame they don't report the link between the woman and the shooter via the drugs (that I've heard about 3rd hand)

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 08:29 PM

View PostCeathreamhnan, on 19 May 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:

It's a shame they don't report the link between the woman and the shooter via the drugs (that I've heard about 3rd hand)

THat bit is true they sold the drugs to him they just dont mention it any more

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 09:30 PM

What, the mother of the deceased was the shooters drug dealer?

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 09:41 PM

Correct Cameron the media just declined to point this out. Along with the fact that she actually gave him the air rifle!
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 10:02 PM

Maybe the politician in question here should be asked by an impartial reporter on his opinion given the facts above.... :ph34r: He'd look pretty shabby if he didn't go a bit red.

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 10:08 PM

Wow.

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 10:57 PM

Yup, both the parents were arrested for selling drugs six months before the shooting. see link below

http://news.bbc.co.u...and/4595962.stm

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Posted 20 May 2012 - 12:41 AM

Good post Rick. Lots of people dont realise the background to the story.
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 12:58 AM

"Actually I see some positives in this. Although the headline is extremely misleading, it actually confirms 'licencing' rather than an outright ban. The status quo was never going to continue so no point getting upset. As SARPA chairman Graham Ellis keeps saying, it's now damage limitation to get the best possible 'licence' scheme in place, so best get behind it and move on. You can't fart against thunder. "


Yes, but the thunder is wrong! I don't see any positives at all. I have a shotgun ticket. I have done for many years and I don't have anything against licensing as such, but a licensing system for airguns is a bit different. Airguns are often the introduction to shooting sports. At entry level, it is a cheap and easy way of shooting. A license system would put many people off starting to shoot. A youngster who "fancies a go at airgunning" is going to be put off by the form filling etc. He/she will leave it and do something else involving less red tape.. It is therefore as good as a ban. It is a slow, delayed reaction ban, because, after time, numbers will drop.
Just my thoughts. I hope I am wrong.

Licensing will just create a list of legal, law abiding airgun owners. Any idiots wanting to abuse airguns will still do so, they won't be licensed and it won't change a thing.
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 04:32 PM

I am not against licensing as such, despite the watse of everyones time and the cost.

I want to know that there will be adequate appeals for rejected licenses and that licenses should be granted unless there is a real reason not to. I do not want some plod what doesn't like guns to refuse me a license as any application for future license will no doubt have the question " have you ever been refused.......".

I heard all the assurancies from the people working hard to get this sorted out, but truth be told I am not hearing a lot that convinces me we will have much of a sport left. If the licence translates in to a FAC then most competions will be obsolete almoat overnight.

We are the law abiders, I don't do drugs and don't sell them.

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Posted 20 May 2012 - 08:49 PM

If the licence turns out to be a full FAC i will be moving up to shotguns and centrefire... :D

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